Re: [videoblogging] MPEG4 not Supported

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Try hooking up the HTML so that it has the standard embedded qt player in =

the browser window, but the URL of the item it plays is the MP4. You can =

get sample HTML from Steve Garfield's site.

On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon N=
oble wrote:

> One last one.
>
> Why does the mp4 not access the plugin for=
display in the browser window?
>
>
>
>
>
> On 8/6/04 6:00 PM, "Shannon Nob=
le" <sn@…> wrote:
>
>> Ok,
>>
>> Now I=B9m starting to get it.
>>
>> =
One last question. Um….uh….. What is a =B3playlist=B2?
>>
>> Thanks aga=
in Lucas.
>>
>> shannon
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/6/04 5:51 PM, "Lucas Gonze" <lgonz=
e@…> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon Noble wrote:=

>>>
>>>>> So….
>>>>>
>>>>> Also….why does the mpeg4 file not act like =
the .mov file? The .mov file
>>>>> begins streaming in the browser window b=
ut the mpeg4 file has to download
>>>>> completely before it opens and begi=
ns to play.
>>>>>
>>>>> Questions questions questions
>>>
>>> A good questi=
on.
>>>
>>> The quicktime plugin on your machine isn't grabbing the URL, bu=
t the
>>> quicktime application *is*. The quicktime plugin can see the mov=
as the
>>> bytes come down, but the quicktime application doesn't even kno=
w the mp4
>>> is there until all the bytes are downloaded. …this is beca=
use of the
>>> way that browsers interact with helper applications.
>>>
>>>=
The quick fix is to make a playlist and put in it nothing but the url of
>=
>> the mp4 file.
>>>
>>> – Lucas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>=
> Shannon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/6/04 5:00 PM, "Shannon Noble" <sn@nn=
on.tv> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok…
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I=B9m starting to underst=
and a little bit now. I=B9d previously tried
>>>>> creating
>>>>>>> the fil=
e and now realized I=B9d made a minor mistake and that is remedied
> so
>>>=
>>>> now the mpeg4 file is a direct download to my machine. Hmm. I=B9m not =
sure
>>>>>>> about the chunks blowing though 8*) . I still have lots of =
questions.
> I
>>>>>>> don=B9t know what they are yet though. 8*(
>>>>>>>
>=
>>>>>> Shannon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/6/04 4:04 PM, "=
Lucas Gonze" <lgonze@…> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The =
quick fix —
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Create a file named .htaccess in the d=
irectory where you keep your
>>>>>>> videos.
>>>>>>>>>>> Put this one line =
in it:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> AddType video/mpeg4-generic mp4
>>>>>>>>>>>
=
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The real fix is to compile a standard .=
htaccess that doesn't blow
>>>>>>> chunks,
>>>>>>>>>>> but I won't have tim=
e today.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon No=
ble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That would be outstanding!
>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .s
>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/6/04 3:46 PM, "Lucas Gonze" <lg=
onze@…> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>> Sigh. Well, if it was all easy, there wouldn't be so much
>>>>>>>>>>> =
new turf to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have fun with. 🙂
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can compile a listing of corrected mime types if it's
>>>=
>>>>>>>> useful to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> people.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'll need pe=
rmission to drop it into your hosting
>>>>>>>>>>> directory.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon Noble wrote:
>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MP4 mime type documented here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>> http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3640.txt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The right mime type would be either video/mpeg o=
r
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video/mpeg4-generic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fix is in the config for your web server.=A0
>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>> Create a file called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .htaccess in y=
our video directory and put this in
> it:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AddTy=
pe video/mpeg4-generic mp4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I tried =
this out and got invalid error messages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the server
>>>=
>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> started=
poking around the support forum for my web
> host where I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
> found this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dated June 6,2004
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've no=
ticed that HostRocket doesn't have ".mp4" or
> any mpeg 4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
extension
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defined in their server mime-types.
=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Having asked about =
this, the response I received
> was:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "While mpeg4 is in use, it is not yet ubiquitous on
>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>> the internet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>> future, we may consider enabling it on our servers.
> However, the
>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mpeg4 is not in the system =
defined types is because
> it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> considered by
>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others who write the software we use to not be
> common."=

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone else f=
ind this totally amusing and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ridiculous at the
>>>>> same
>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here they are with other mime-types such as ".latex"
> implem=
ented,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won't use a c=
urrent standard because it's not
> wide-spread?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet, the average web-surfer will NEVER see som=
ething
> ".latex"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go
=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to their local pharmacy and look next to things=
also
> labelled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "polyurathane"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>> and self-test kits.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this the kind of thing that might =
make one want
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to switch to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> di=
fferent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hosting operation?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New Post on x.nnon.tv
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shannon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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