Re: [videoblogging] MPEG4 not Supported

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Try:
http://webjay.org/scraper?url=3DLINK-TO-YOUR-MP4

That's very quick a=
nd dirty. I'll tidy up when my wife isn't glaring at
me for working on th=
e computer late on friday night. 🙂

Thanks to Steve G. for the HTML for e=
mbedding QuickTime, which comes from:
http://s95130335.onlinehome.us/video/=
dnc_sam_adams.html

(Which is a really funny and excelling bit of vogging, =
BTW).

On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Lucas Gonze wrote:

>
> Hang loose and I'll cran=
k out a tool to auto-generate a playlist, Shannon.
> I'll try to get it don=
e this weekend.
>
> On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon Noble wrote:
>
>> Ok,
>>
>>=
Now I=B9m starting to get it.
>>
>> One last question. Um….uh….. What =
is a =B3playlist=B2?
>>
>> Thanks again Lucas.
>>
>> shannon
>>
>>
>>
>> On=
8/6/04 5:51 PM, "Lucas Gonze" <lgonze@…> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On =
Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon Noble wrote:
>>>
>>>>> So….
>>>>>
>>>>> Also….=
why does the mpeg4 file not act like the .mov file? The .mov file
>>>>> beg=
ins streaming in the browser window but the mpeg4 file has to download
>>>>=
> completely before it opens and begins to play.
>>>>>
>>>>> Questions ques=
tions questions
>>>
>>> A good question.
>>>
>>> The quicktime plugin on yo=
ur machine isn't grabbing the URL, but the
>>> quicktime application *is*. =
The quicktime plugin can see the mov as the
>>> bytes come down, but the q=
uicktime application doesn't even know the mp4
>>> is there until all the b=
ytes are downloaded. …this is because of the
>>> way that browsers inter=
act with helper applications.
>>>
>>> The quick fix is to make a playlist a=
nd put in it nothing but the url of
>>> the mp4 file.
>>>
>>> – Lucas
>>>
>=
>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Shannon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8=
/6/04 5:00 PM, "Shannon Noble" <sn@…> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok…
>>>>=
>>>
>>>>>>> I=B9m starting to understand a little bit now. I=B9d previously=
tried
>>>>> creating
>>>>>>> the file and now realized I=B9d made a minor =
mistake and that is remedied
>> so
>>>>>>> now the mpeg4 file is a direct d=
ownload to my machine. Hmm. I=B9m not sure
>>>>>>> about the chunks blowing=
though 8*) . I still have lots of questions.
>> I
>>>>>>> don=B9t know =
what they are yet though. 8*(
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shannon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>=
>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/6/04 4:04 PM, "Lucas Gonze" <lgonze@…> wrot=
e:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The quick fix —
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>=
Create a file named .htaccess in the directory where you keep your
>>>>>>>=
videos.
>>>>>>>>>>> Put this one line in it:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> AddTy=
pe video/mpeg4-generic mp4
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> =
The real fix is to compile a standard .htaccess that doesn't blow
>>>>>>> c=
hunks,
>>>>>>>>>>> but I won't have time today.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>=
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon Noble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>> That would be outstanding!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>> On 8/6/04 3:46 PM, "Lucas Gonze" <lgonze@…> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sigh. Well, if it was all easy,=
there wouldn't be so much
>>>>>>>>>>> new turf to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have=
fun with. 🙂
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can compile a list=
ing of corrected mime types if it's
>>>>>>>>>>> useful to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> peo=
ple.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'll need permission to drop it into your hostin=
g >>>>>>>>>
>> directory.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 6=
Aug 2004, Shannon Noble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MP4 mime type d=
ocumented here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/r=
fc3640.txt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The righ=
t mime type would be either video/mpeg or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video/mpeg4-gen=
eric.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fix is in=
the config for your web server.=A0 Create
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a file called
>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .htaccess in your video directory and put this in=
it:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AddType video/mpeg4-generic mp4
>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I tried this out and got invalid error messag=
es
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the server
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> th=
en
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> started poking around the support forum for =
my web
>> host where I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> found this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>> dated June 6,2004
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've noticed that HostRocket doesn't have "=
.mp4" or
>> any mpeg 4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extension
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>> defined in their server mime-types.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Having asked about this, the response I received was:
=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "While mpeg4 is in =
use, it is not yet ubiquitous on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the internet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>> In the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future, we may consider enabling i=
t on our servers.
>> However, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>> mpeg4 is not in the system defined types is because
>> it is
>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> considered by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others who write =
the software we use to not be
>> common."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone else find this totally amusing and
>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>> ridiculous at the
>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time?
>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here they are with o=
ther mime-types such as ".latex"
>> implemented,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but they=

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won't use a current standard because it's not
=
>> wide-spread?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet=
, the average web-surfer will NEVER see something
>> ".latex"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>> unless they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to =
their local pharmacy and look next to things also
>> labelled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>> "polyurathane"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and self-test kits.
>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>> Is this the kind of thing that might make one want to
>> switch to =
a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hosting=
operation?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New Pos=
t on x.nnon.tv
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>> Shannon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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