Re: [videoblogging] MPEG4 not Supported

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=B3Utterly Fantastic=B2 regarding your help is all I can say! I imagine tha=
t
within a year there will be enough info on this yahoogroup to put togethe=
r a
marketable book to pay for a web server and all sorts of things…..and=
the
info will be obsolete by then. Shucks.

Fortunately for me my wife is =
as much of a computer addict as I am. We use
to AIM across the room at each=
other, until our telepathic abilities became
more honed.

Shannon

O=
n 8/6/04 6:56 PM, "Lucas Gonze" <lgonze@…> wrote:

>
> Try:
> http=
://webjay.org/scraper?url=3DLINK-TO-YOUR-MP4
>
> That's very quick and dir=
ty. I'll tidy up when my wife isn't glaring at
> me for working on the com=
puter late on friday night. 🙂
>
> Thanks to Steve G. for the HTML for em=
bedding QuickTime, which comes from:
> http://s95130335.onlinehome.us/video=
/dnc_sam_adams.html
>
> (Which is a really funny and excelling bit of vogg=
ing, BTW).
>
> On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Lucas Gonze wrote:
>
>> >
>> > Hang lo=
ose and I'll crank out a tool to auto-generate a playlist, Shannon.
>> > I'=
ll try to get it done this weekend.
>> >
>> > On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon N=
oble wrote:
>> >
>>> >> Ok,
>>> >>
>>> >> Now I=B9m starting to get it.
>>>=
>>
>>> >> One last question. Um….uh….. What is a =B3playlist=B2?
>>> >=
>
>>> >> Thanks again Lucas.
>>> >>
>>> >> shannon
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>=
>> On 8/6/04 5:51 PM, "Lucas Gonze" <lgonze@…> wrote:
>>> >>
>>>> =
>>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon Noble wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>=
>>> >>>>> So….
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> Also….why does the mpeg4 file =
not act like the .mov file? The
>>>>>> .mov file
>>>>>> >>>>> begins stream=
ing in the browser window but the mpeg4 file has to
>>>>>> download
>>>>>> =
>>>>> completely before it opens and begins to play.
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>=
>>> Questions questions questions
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> A good question.
>>>> >=
>>
>>>> >>> The quicktime plugin on your machine isn't grabbing the URL, bu=
t the
>>>> >>> quicktime application *is*. The quicktime plugin can see th=
e mov as
the
>>>> >>> bytes come down, but the quicktime application doesn'=
t even know the
mp4
>>>> >>> is there until all the bytes are downloaded. =
…this is because of the
>>>> >>> way that browsers interact with helper a=
pplications.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> The quick fix is to make a playlist and put =
in it nothing but the url
of
>>>> >>> the mp4 file.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> – Luc=
as
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>>=
>
>>>>>> >>>>> Shannon
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> =
On 8/6/04 5:00 PM, "Shannon Noble" <sn@…> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>=
> >>>>>>> Ok…
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I=B9m starting to underst=
and a little bit now. I=B9d previously
tried
>>>>>> >>>>> creating
>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>> the file and now realized I=B9d made a minor mistake and that is
>=
>>>>>>> remedied
>>> >> so
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> now the mpeg4 file is a direct =
download to my machine. Hmm. I=B9m
>>>>>>>> not sure
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> about=
the chunks blowing though 8*) . I still have lots of
>>>>>>>> questions=
.
>>> >> I
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> don=B9t know what they are yet though. 8*(
>>>>=
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Shannon
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>=
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 8/6/04 4:04 PM, "Lucas G=
onze" <lgonze@…> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>=
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The quick fix —
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>=
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Create a file named .htaccess in the directory where
>>>>>>=
>>>>>> you keep your
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> videos.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Put =
this one line in it:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> AddT=
ype video/mpeg4-generic mp4
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>=
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The real fix is to com=
pile a standard .htaccess that
>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't blow
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> c=
hunks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> but I won't have time today.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >=
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 6 Aug =
2004, Shannon Noble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>> That would be outstanding!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/6/04 3:46 PM, "L=
ucas Gonze"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <lgonze@…> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sigh. Well, if it was all easy, there
wouldn't be so m=
uch
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> new turf to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>> have fun with. 🙂
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can compile a listing of corrected
mime =
types if it's
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> useful to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>=
>> people.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'll need permission =
to drop it into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your hosting >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> director=
y.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon Noble
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MP4 mime type
documented here:
>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =
http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3640.txt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>> The right mime type
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be either vide=
o/mpeg or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video/mpeg4-generic.
>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fix is in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>> config for your web server.=A0 Create
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =
a file called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .hta=
ccess in your video
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directory and put this in =
it:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AddType
video/=
mpeg4-generic mp4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I tried this out and
got invalid error messages
>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the server
>>>>>> >>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> started poking around
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>> the support forum for my web
>>> >> host where I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> found this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>> dated June 6,2004
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've noticed that
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HostRocket doesn't have ".mp4" or
>>> >> any mpeg 4
=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extension
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defined in their server
mime-types.
>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Having asked about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
> this, the response I received was:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
"While mpeg4 is in use,
it is not yet ubiquitous on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>> the internet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future, we may consider
=
enabling it on our servers.
>>> >> However, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> m=
peg4 is not in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system defined types is bec=
ause
>>> >> it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> considered by
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others who write the
sof=
tware we use to not be
>>> >> common."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>> Does anyone else find
this totally amusing and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>> ridiculous at the
>>>>>> >>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here=
they are with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other mime-types such as ".late=
x"
>>> >> implemented,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but they
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won't use a current
stan=
dard because it's not
>>> >> wide-spread?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>> Yet, the average
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> web-surfer will NEVER s=
ee something
>>> >> ".latex"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless th=
ey
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to their local pharmacy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and look next to things also
>>> >> labelled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "polyurathane"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and self-test kits.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is =
this the kind of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing that might make one wan=
t to
>>> >> switch to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ho=
sting operation?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New Post on x.nnon=
.tv
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shannon
>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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<FONT FACE=3D"Verdana">“Utterly Fantastic” regarding y=
our help is all I can say! I imagine that within a year there will be enoug=
h info on this yahoogroup to put together a marketable book to pay for a we=
b server and all sorts of things…..and the info will be obsolete by then.=
Shucks.<BR>
<BR>
Fortunately for me my wife is as much of a computer addic=
t as I am. We use to AIM across the room at each other, until our telepathi=
c abilities became more honed. <BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Shannon<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<B=
R>
<BR>
On 8/6/04 6:56 PM, "Lucas Gonze" <lgonze@…>=
wrote:<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"New York"><TT><BR>
Try:<B=
R>
http://webjay.org/scraper?url=3DLINK-TO-YOUR-MP4<BR>
<BR>
That's very qu=
ick and dirty.  I'll tidy up when my wife isn't glaring at <BR>
me for=
working on the computer late on friday night.  :)<BR>
<BR>
Thanks to =
Steve G. for the HTML for embedding QuickTime, which comes from:<BR>
http:/=
/s95130335.onlinehome.us/video/dnc_sam_adams.html<BR>
<BR>
(Which is a real=
ly funny and excelling bit of vogging, BTW).<BR>
<BR>
On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, L=
ucas Gonze wrote:<BR>
<BR>
><BR>
> Hang loose and I'll crank out a to=
ol to auto-generate a playlist, Shannon.<BR>
> I'll try to get it done t=
his weekend.<BR>
><BR>
> On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon Noble wrote:<BR>=

><BR>
>> Ok,<BR>
>><BR>
>> Now I’m starting to =
get it.<BR>
>><BR>
>> One last question. Um….uh….. What is =
a “playlist”?<BR>
>><BR>
>> Thanks again Lucas.<BR>=

>><BR>
>> shannon<BR>
>><BR>
>><BR>
>><BR>
&=
gt;> On 8/6/04 5:51 PM, "Lucas Gonze" <lgonze@…>=
wrote:<BR>
>><BR>
>>><BR>
>>><BR>
>>> On =
Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon Noble wrote:<BR>
>>><BR>
>>>>=
> So….<BR>
>>>>><BR>
>>>>> Also….why d=
oes the mpeg4 file not act like the .mov file? The .mov file<BR>
>>&g=
t;>> begins streaming in the browser window but the mpeg4 file has to=
download<BR>
>>>>> completely before it opens and begins to=
play.<BR>
>>>>><BR>
>>>>> Questions question=
s questions<BR>
>>><BR>
>>> A good question.<BR>
>>=
><BR>
>>> The quicktime plugin on your machine isn't grabbing t=
he URL, but the<BR>
>>> quicktime application *is*.  The quic=
ktime plugin can see the mov as the<BR>
>>> bytes come down, but t=
he quicktime application doesn't even know the mp4<BR>
>>> is ther=
e until all the bytes are downloaded.  …this is because of the<BR>
&=
gt;>> way that browsers interact with helper applications.<BR>
>&g=
t;><BR>
>>> The quick fix is to make a playlist and put in it n=
othing but the url of<BR>
>>> the mp4 file.<BR>
>>><BR>
&=
gt;>> – Lucas<BR>
>>><BR>
>>><BR>
>>><BR>
=
>>>>><BR>
>>>>> Thanks,<BR>
>>>>&=
gt;<BR>
>>>>> Shannon<BR>
>>>>><BR>
>>&=
gt;>><BR>
>>>>><BR>
>>>>> On 8/6/04 5:0=
0 PM, "Shannon Noble" <sn@…> wrote:<BR>
>>>&=
gt;><BR>
>>>>>>> Ok…<BR>
>>>>>>=
><BR>
>>>>>>> I’m starting to understand a li=
ttle bit now. I’d previously tried<BR>
>>>>> creating<=
BR>
>>>>>>> the file and now realized I’d made a=
minor mistake and that is remedied<BR>
>> so<BR>
>>>>&gt=
;>> now the mpeg4 file is a direct download to my machine. Hmm. I&#82=
17;m not sure<BR>
>>>>>>> about the chunks blowing tho=
ugh 8*)  .   I still have lots of questions.<BR>
>> I<=
BR>
>>>>>>> don’t know what they are yet though.=
8*(<BR>
>>>>>>><BR>
>>>>>>> Shan=
non<BR>
>>>>>>><BR>
>>>>>>><BR>
&=
gt;>>>>>><BR>
>>>>>>><BR>
>>&g=
t;>>>> On 8/6/04 4:04 PM, "Lucas Gonze" <lgonze@pa=
nix.com> wrote:<BR>
>>>>>>><BR>
>>>>&gt=
;>>>>>><BR>
>>>>>>>>>>> =
The quick fix –<BR>
>>>>>>>>>>><BR>
>&=
gt;>>>>>>>>> Create a file named .htaccess in th=
e directory where you keep your<BR>
>>>>>>> videos.<BR=
>
>>>>>>>>>>> Put this one line in it:<BR>=

>>>>>>>>>>><BR>
>>>>>>&=
gt;>>>> AddType video/mpeg4-generic mp4<BR>
>>>>&gt=
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