Re: [videoblogging] MPEG4 not Supported

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Hang loose and I'll crank out a tool to auto-generate a playlist, Shannon.=

I'll try to get it done this weekend.

On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon Noble =
wrote:

> Ok,
>
> Now I=B9m starting to get it.
>
> One last question. Um..=
..uh….. What is a =B3playlist=B2?
>
> Thanks again Lucas.
>
> shannon
>
>=

>
> On 8/6/04 5:51 PM, "Lucas Gonze" <lgonze@…> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> =
On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon Noble wrote:
>>
>>>> So….
>>>>
>>>> Also….w=
hy does the mpeg4 file not act like the .mov file? The .mov file
>>>> begin=
s streaming in the browser window but the mpeg4 file has to download
>>>> c=
ompletely before it opens and begins to play.
>>>>
>>>> Questions questions=
questions
>>
>> A good question.
>>
>> The quicktime plugin on your machin=
e isn't grabbing the URL, but the
>> quicktime application *is*. The quick=
time plugin can see the mov as the
>> bytes come down, but the quicktime ap=
plication doesn't even know the mp4
>> is there until all the bytes are dow=
nloaded. …this is because of the
>> way that browsers interact with help=
er applications.
>>
>> The quick fix is to make a playlist and put in it no=
thing but the url of
>> the mp4 file.
>>
>> – Lucas
>>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> Than=
ks,
>>>>
>>>> Shannon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/6/04 5:00 PM, "Shannon Noble=
" <sn@…> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Ok…
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I=B9m starting to und=
erstand a little bit now. I=B9d previously tried
>>>> creating
>>>>>> the f=
ile and now realized I=B9d made a minor mistake and that is remedied
> so
>=
>>>>> now the mpeg4 file is a direct download to my machine. Hmm. I=B9m not=
sure
>>>>>> about the chunks blowing though 8*) . I still have lots of =
questions.
> I
>>>>>> don=B9t know what they are yet though. 8*(
>>>>>>
>>>=
>>> Shannon
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/6/04 4:04 PM, "Lucas Go=
nze" <lgonze@…> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The quick fix -=

>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Create a file named .htaccess in the directory wher=
e you keep your
>>>>>> videos.
>>>>>>>>>> Put this one line in it:
>>>>>>>>=
>>
>>>>>>>>>> AddType video/mpeg4-generic mp4
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>=
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The real fix is to compile a standard .htaccess that doesn't=
blow
>>>>>> chunks,
>>>>>>>>>> but I won't have time today.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>=
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Shannon Noble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>> That would be outstanding!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.=

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>> On 8/6/04 3:46 PM, "Lucas Gonze" <lgonze@…> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sigh. Well, if it was all easy, t=
here wouldn't be so much
>>>>>>>>>> new turf to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have fun=
with. 🙂
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can compile a listing of=
corrected mime types if it's
>>>>>>>>>> useful to
>>>>>>>>>>>> people.
>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You'll need permission to drop it into your hosting >>>>>>>=
>>
> directory.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, S=
hannon Noble wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MP4 mime type documented her=
e:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3640.txt
>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The right mime type woul=
d be either video/mpeg or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> video/mpeg4-generic.
>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fix is in the config for you=
r web server.=A0 Create
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a file called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>> .htaccess in your video directory and put this in it:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>> AddType video/mpeg4-generic mp4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
So I tried this out and got invalid error messages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the=
server
>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
started poking around the support forum for my web
> host where I
>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>> found this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dated June 6,2004
>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've=
noticed that HostRocket doesn't have ".mp4" or
> any mpeg 4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>> extension
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defined in their server mime-types.=

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Having asked about t=
his, the response I received was:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>> "While mpeg4 is in use, it is not yet ubiquitous on
>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>> the internet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> futur=
e, we may consider enabling it on our servers.
> However, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>> reason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mpeg4 is not in the system defined ty=
pes is because
> it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> considered by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>> others who write the software we use to not be
> common."
>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone else find this total=
ly amusing and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ridiculous at the
>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>> time?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here =
they are with other mime-types such as ".latex"
> implemented,
>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>> but they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won't use a current standard becau=
se it's not
> wide-spread?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>> Yet, the average web-surfer will NEVER see something
> ".latex"
>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>> unless they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
> to their local pharmacy and look next to things also
> labelled
>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "polyurathane"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and self-test kits.=

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>> Is this the kind of thing that might make one want to
> switch to a
=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hosting ope=
ration?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New Post on =
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shann=
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