Torrents/rss enclosures (was re: vlogging script)

The notion of RSS enclosures scare me and confuse me all in the same capacity. I mean, it
really does *sound* good, but I think it can be potentially abused. The other thing is I can't
find anything practical to GET enclosures. BitTorrent has promise, but as a tech tool, like
p2p. Kids and Nerds (that pretty much sums up 'tech' today). I can't begin to fathom how
to explain the torrent notion to the world at large. I'm still workin on getting them to
understand blogging.

Are these (enclosures/torrents) just slated to be transparent technologies that will never
be visible to the general public and absorbed IN to some bigger product?

I'm finding that I want to deal less and less with figuring these things out. Maybe I'm
getting old and tired (haha), but I don't want to hassle with 'em. I can get them other ways
and deal with the slight inconveniences. it's okay. Really.

Just some thoughts.

E

— In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Lucas Gonze <lgonze@p…> wrote:
>
> A comment on RSS, videoblogging and BitTorrent: if you're using RSS
> enclosures, you really really want to be serving BitTorrents. If you're
> not serving BitTorrents, you probably don't want to be using RSS
> enclosures.
>
> – Lucas
>
> On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 antipast0@y… wrote:
>
> > Well, its a combo of both…
> >
> > BT makes a .torrent file… this is sort of a treasure map that can
> > be widely distributed. That .torrent file contains information like
> > a) where can I find out who has this file right now? c) how many
> > files are there? d) what are the files called?
> >
> > etc…
> >
> > So, yes, you would have the file on your local machine, and then
> > you'd publish your .torrent file on your blog.
> >
> > There are already TONS of people that distribute .torrent files via
> > RSS, so blogging with this sort of file would actually be somewhat of
> > an emerging standard.
> >
> > So, you have it on your local machine, and then everyone out in the
> > world gets the .torrent file… Their computers then start to request
> > the file from your machine.
> >
> > Once you have uploaded to atleast 1 or 2 other people, the
> > distribution of the file is then exponentially increased as then
> > those two people probably upload to 1 or 2 each, and so on.
> >
> > So, it would probably only be practical for those with broadband
> > connections simply because they're always on, but you could very well
> > do this dialup.
> >
> > The big concern is that if video blogs get big, you want to maximize
> > your exposure (BT certainly does that), but you don't want to tax
> > your hosting company (especially with the added bandwidth of people
> > downloading!)… The more popular your video blog, the faster
> > downloads will be and less bandwidth will be required on your part…
> > think of it like how a jet engine works… The more people transfer
> > your content, the better the ability for others to get it.
> >
> > BT is the pinnacle of a lot of P2P technology because it can be
> > applied to special needs such as this.
> >
> >
> > First idea would be the process I talked about:
> >
> > 1) create video
> > 2) create .torrent
> > 3) publish .torrent on blog
> > 4) "seed" file to requesting it from your machine
> > 5) when there are a few seeds, quit.
> >
> > …
> >
> > But with RSS and blogging (as social networking software), this could
> > lead to futher automation like what you guys are talking about…
> > Like the following:
> >
> > 1) aggregate select video blogs into a single RSS feed
> > 2) activate and download all .torrent files
> > 3) use feed to combine the video in order
> >
> > If you all standardized with how you were doing this… say… naming
> > all files a certain way, and in a certain folder… You could have an
> > automated video distribution method of all video bloggers, and it
> > could very well automatically combine video (so long as you
> > standardized on a type, or at the least, a playlist format)…
> >
> > There are a lot of possibilities, but ultimately, the community needs
> > to:
> >
> > a) keep video blogging, and keep evangelizing … !!!
> > b) find programmers, or learn! heheh… I recommend c#, but
> > bittorrent is written in Python… both are emerging and modern cross-
> > platform languages (c#, thanks to the mono project on linux/mac)
> >
> > c) document the methods you guys are using now
> > d) think up programs, standards, ideas
> >
> > … this would be like "hey… if we all used Quicktime, and always
> > named our files with like "20040513.mov" then we can make a playlist
> > of everyone's videoblogs for real-time streaming based on their rss
> > feeds!!!
> >
> > There's a lot of room for documenting and dreaming up this stuff.
> >
> > I guess most video bloggers on are on the mac? That would make sense
> > as a mac rocks for easy video…. Programming that seemlessly like
> > how Apple does is something that can be hard to obtain for some hobby
> > programmers.
> >
> > Anyway…. thanks for listening to me rant. I believe that video
> > blogging is absolutely revolutionary… and the possibility of
> > having "video feeds" of friends, relatives, pundits, experts…. WOW.
> >
> > Keep it up,
> >
> > Thomas
> >
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> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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